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Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
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29.10.2017 19:14:32
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LorrieJen

Registered: 28.02.2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2

26.11.2017 04:35:13
ERS 
I think one easy solution to the problems mentioned here would be to make ERS available to all players, or at least at the pro level after the computer predictions are removed after rookie level.

I also rather liked the separate but cool suggested idea of the pit stop time segment made earlier in another thread. It's possible that this could somehow come into play at Expert level thus distinguishing experts in some capacity, but it could be only used against other experts in a special cup.

There could be other advanced options like this that could come into play against other experts with expert level trophies awarded against other expert level players thus keeping experts in play against experts without putting them up against the rookies and pros with abilities they lack (beyond their advanced experience / expertise).

At the current time, the pro level has no advantage over rookie (it seems like a handicapped amateur) and the first time as an expert is just spent trying to figure out what on Earth the ERS is all about. Giving the pros ERS would help the learning curve on ERS and more goodies could be added to make expert continue to be interesting without making it difficult for pros to compete against.

   
Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
Posts: 63

26.11.2017 04:29:57
ers 


   
GaKra Motors

Registered: 02.03.2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 925

25.11.2017 23:35:10
 
Well, Alan it's just what I said... it is tough to win a race without ERS, but not a disadvantage when it comes to winning a big title. And you being 14th in overall should prove it's true. So you proved your worth, and I can see you are eligible to play as an expert and use ERS, too, but chose not to.

CarlisleFrost, I agree with you and also think everybody should be allowed to play the way they want. But then people kept complaining the game is too complicated, so Maverick made it easier for beginners. I didn't get it why it is not possible for players just to ignore the things they don't understand... but on the other hand, if I was to step into the cockpit of a plane being supposed to fly it, maybe I would be glad if some of the less important buttons had been left away, too.
So I propose a compromise... conditions to become a pro or an expert that are based on achievements should remain the way they are, because you won't win races even with ERS if you can't fulfil them. However, conditions that are merely time-critical, especially the one about how many seasons you must have played, could be left away or at least loosened a bit... so players who fulfil all other conditions in first season already can immediately become experts if they choose to.

Edit: With big titles I mean Overall Championships and Constructor's Championships. I agree that it is quite impossible to win Champions Racing League without ERS. But not more impossible than to qualify for Champions Racing League without being eligible to play as an expert and use ERS.
   
CarlisleFrost

Registered: 19.03.2009
Location: USA
Posts: 132

25.11.2017 22:52:48
 
Well, the promise to stop posting on the topic didn't last long.

Agreed with GaKra overall on ERS, that for overall scores in the championship, it has a minimal effect, as the charging and budget consumption offset the use of it. The upside is purely in leagues/cups, where it can be used strategically.

As for the challenge to not use it to prove worth, I've been there and done that already, as have most of the big names here, I'd imagine.

Finally, Alan, rather than just moaning on and on (it really does you no favors in terms of appearing credible), try making a decent recommendation to make things better.

For example, here's a suggestion... I do think there could be a case to widen the use of ERS/to allow anyone to use it in a season if they elect to, rather than restricting it to those that qualify to be an 'Expert'. Then people can't complain about privileges etc, as it is anyone's CHOICE about using it or not.

Maverick, thoughts?

   
Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
Posts: 63

25.11.2017 22:13:42
ers 


   
Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
Posts: 63

25.11.2017 19:45:33
ers 

   
GaKra Motors

Registered: 02.03.2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 925

25.11.2017 17:12:47
 
Unloading ERS sure raises your chances to win a race. However, you lower your chances to win other races when you load ERS. Now I see the problem for pros and rookies to win races, because there will always be some experts with a full ERS, except at the beginning of a season. However, chances to win the whole thing are well-balanced, I would say. Just have a look at Maxwell's trophy collection. He is a pro player and has good chances to add a Constructors Champion title to his impressive collection this season, he is number 2 in PFRL World Ranking and has never scored a single point with ERS.

   
Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
Posts: 63

25.11.2017 16:35:35
ers/secrecy 


   
Maverick

Registered: 10.01.2004
Location: Austria
Posts: 1076

14.11.2017 19:07:39
 
I wonder why rookies and pros sign up to compete against folks who get a fifteen point head start with ers and overake buttons.

An expert starts with an empty ERS. 5 points cost 1 Mio. 15 points cost 3 Mio. Pros and Rookies have more money available for their team components. The overtake button does not generate additional points. It only allows to discharge more points ((engine points / 3) + 5), if the ERS charge is high enough.

I think currently it's a quite well balanced game play.

   
Alan_T_Riley

Registered: 14.03.2015
Location: Denmark
Posts: 63

14.11.2017 16:27:09
choices in secret 


   
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